Will Online Porn Signups Decrease During Ramadan?
It is a day early for Friday Fluff but I just couldn't wait to share this story.
Iranian Supreme Leader has ruled that deliberate masturbation during the month of Ramadan is not allowed.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3311189,00.html
I don't take part in Ramadan but I thought it was ok as long as it is after sundown but who am I to argue with the Iranian Supreme Leader? I hope this masturbation ban doesn't also cover sex otherwise there may be alot of unhappy frustrated people.
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Maybe it's just me
But I don't find this appropriate for TW (even on Fridays). The tone of the destination seems mocking, no?
Point of View
Taking an outside point of view cutting down a perfectly good pine tree stringing lights on it and decorating it with brightly colored baubles seems a bit daft if you think about it.
Religion & Politics
"Welcome to Threadwatch, a community website focused on Internet marketing and related technologies"...............
vintage
threadwatch.
Would've liked more "wankers", "taking the piss" or "bloody" in the post though.
good insight
It would be very cool if you could watch Hitwise-type data or Google Trends for Iran during Ramamadan to see if this holds true. Of course, if you compare it to several Christian-based religions in the US, you'd find that they have a year-round ban on the practice vs. just the one month off for Iranian Muslims.
And Graywolf - I love my X-mas tree, lights and presents, despite being Jewish. Don't go messing with Santa, amigo. He sees you when your sleeping... :)
Marketing
What's wrong with marketing to groups based around religious holidays? Most brick and mortar retailers have been kept in business for years doing just that Black Friday (shopping) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
internet marketing deals
internet marketing deals with understanding your audience and delivering what they want. (especially if you are in porn and going after the fetish terms :)
each religion can seem weird to people outside of it. if you have an online presence and it is international i would recommend keeping on top of what people are doing and saying.
This Thread does not belong on Threadwatch
I am sorry guys... even though this is Aaron's call... I really feel that this does not belong on Threadwatch
This site is for Internet Marketing... and not politics / religion.
There are a million sites where this discussion would be in theme.. but threadwatch isn't one of them.
In my opinion it detracts from the overall quality of this site... and paints many of us in a light that exceeds Online Marketing / SEM / SEO ..
This is not good at all... throwing politics and religion into this mix will put up more walls and hurt the overall quality of the flow of information related to the what should be normal threadwatch topics.
in terms of this being
in terms of this being appropriate--I think anyone whose title is "Supreme Leader" is fair game.
deliberate?
When is it not deliberate?
The 'Supreme Leader' is Aaron Wall
That is who the 'Supreme Leader' is as far as Threadwatch is concerned.
hence why I didn't just take down this thread and waiting for Aaron to comment on it.
hmmm
I have to admit to being torn on this one - its an interesting subject and as Goodroi says, understand your audience irrespective of who they are or why they may be changing their surfing habits, but that article is clearly written by someone who's best friend is his right hand, imho....
> I hope this masturbation ban doesn't also cover sex otherwise there may be alot of unhappy frustrated people
Of course it does, the point of Ramadam is to deny yourself things - much like Lent - its pretty meaningless if you deny yourself a specific type of cake but get to eat everything else with impunity.
I think that masturbation is also generally not allowed (not just for Ramadan) in some sects. Again, isn't that the same with Catholisism? Your stats may not change as much as you imagine :)
hmmmm again
>>This site is for Internet Marketing... and not politics / religion.
This site is 90% politics / religion.
If this was a thread about
If this was a thread about an aspect of Christiany or Judiasm would there be as much of a knee jerk reaction to pull the thread?
If this thread...
If it was about Christiany or Judiasm it most likey wouldn't of got published by someone here in the first place.
so what you are saying is
so what you are saying is that you sense some sort of bias on the part of the OP?
No I am saying something slipped though the cracks
I am saying something slipped though the cracks.. in my opinion...
All the Threadwatch Editors are people, just like you or I .. with differing views on many things...
I personally feel that this one crosses the line... whoever published it doesn't.
I don't like to focus on non-marketing issues.... this one is alittle to racy for threadwatch.. again in my opinion...
Lesson Two
Controversy creates lots of user generated content ...
To further the use of topic
in regards to Internet Marketing... This could easily spill into a discussion of linkbait via the attack and possibly the humor hook if you satire it up enough. However, would have to be careful what you wish for with that one... remember Denmark?
If I recall correctly, normal sexual relations after sundown are acceptable during Ramadan. However, I'm not sure if that covers masturbation to be quite honest. I used to do a bit of reading on comparative religious studies but rusty on this topic.
Graywolf
LOL
Graywolf ... that is the only good part about this thread...
Usually I'm a bit of a
Usually I'm a bit of a stickler for keeping things on topic, but I really didn't see a huge problem with this one. It doesn't seem religiously insensitive - just points out the facts and the possible effects on web marketers in the adult space.
It's a bit racy, but I haven't seen that stop discussion at TW before.
Welcome to FOX News
This is FOX News crap, really... I don't think we need this here.
Marketing
Hey, just slap some ads on this page as they'll soon be overflowing with, um, product and you can clean up with a sperm bank affiliate program at the end of Ramadan.
A true entrepreneur might start marketing extra strong tissues or perhaps strike a deal with Bounty for a whole new market segment thats 'untouched' for the quicker picker upper.
yes, keep Threadwatch "professional"! HAHAHAHAHA
The Founder,
Threadwatch is *supposed* to be about crossing the line, isn't it?
And report on stuff other people won't touch?
Gawd, are people really commenting "Let's keep Threadwatch clean" ????
Does anyone even remember the types of things we commented / broke back when NickW was here ???
Also
I think it's unfair to call threadwatch FOXnews
To me its more like the Daily Show. Threadwatch exists for two reasons : 1) to call Bullshit on all the hype/political-correctness/FUD in the SEM industry, and to 2) entertain us / make us laugh
To me its more like the Daily Show.
oh common Andy.. everyone knows it's the Colbert Report :)
What a Hoot! I think the
What a Hoot! I think the thread is good for a laugh and do believe the off color knee-deep-stuff here makes TW an alright place. TW is not a place for the emotionally fragile or politics; and this is not about that, it's a laugh... and FOX it ain't - for sure.
Allright now Mr Hagans sit
Allright now Mr Hagans sit down, there will be no frivolity around here, were serious professionals ...
Yes Sister Mary Elephant.
Yeeessss, Sister Mary Elephant
Sister Act
Best... movie... EVER
(Sister Mary Clarence, wasn't it?)
> oh common Andy.. everyone
oh common Andy.. everyone knows it's the Colbert Report :)
That brings us to Tonight's WØRD: "deliberate masturbation"
Question: what qualifies as non-deliberate masturbation?
for reference
that is
& # 2 1 6 ;
thnx Jimbo!
non-deliberate masturbation
Question: what qualifies as non-deliberate masturbation
well after checking around on the iran site there was a question about using your wife's hand ...
digg worthy
http://digg.com/world_news/Khameini_says_Be_Master_of_Your_Domain_for_Ramadan
Turning Japanese
I see FleshLight has an affiliate program, ground shipments would probably arrive just in time...
Master Link Baiting
What makes this a reasonable topic for threadwatch isn't the content of the post or the humorous responses. It is the power of the link text to drive traffic. I bet it is the most clicked on link today.
Master Link Baiting 101.
Um
I think it's actually LINK MASTER BAITING...
Fox News..
Dominic:
I checked Fox News (as well as Google and CNN) and none of them referenced this story. This is a threadwatch scoop. Fox above the fold is dominated by Foley and Haster, a special attack on George Soros and the usual salacious details about child pornography arrests and the Pennsylvania Amish Tragedy. Even the Fox Iran section is silent on the topic of masterbation.
Checking the names on this forum, we seem to have ok in terms of the pronouncement that it is "not permissible" to take part in meetings attended by both men and women.
Okay it was a slow few days
Okay it was a slow few days for TW, I admit. And this particular THREAD is not too far from typical (lately) for TW. But the site it linked to was not worthy, IMHO, especially front page worthy. It reads like mocking, not reporting. It is so easy to mock *anything* so the choice of religion was not the issue... one could easily knock any "faith" but is that worthy of front page TW attention?
You can all do as you like, but I would have preferred to see TW keep the better stuff up front and leave the politics and humor off the front page. It's just marketing. This kind of stuff makes TW look like sophomoric to newsreaders and visitors. If that's what you want...
Not seeing the forest for the trees
What I think a lot of people missed was the outside of the box thinking for niche research. As has been stated this isn't getting coverage anywhere else. So if the event will create an increased demand in a niche product and you can find a way to capitalize on it in the time period, you may want to go for it.
It's no different than building a Star Wars or Harry Potter site to tie in with a movie or book being released, except there will be a whole lot less people competing.
John doesn't get it...
They've issued a fattywah and it got no coverage, which as a self-professed competitive webmaster seems right up your alley for exploitation.
Here Ya Go John....
Straight from the horse's mouth.
Click on 'newly asked questions'. Yep, someone was concerned about jacking off during Ramadan. A Jewish news agency reported on it. There's a permanent prohibition against lust, so I'm wondering... Okay, so I'm not wondering
Geotargeting
Bringing some relativity back to the thread (ahem), does this mean I should not geotarget Iran, Syria, Southern Lebanon, and Eastern Iraq in my online porn marketing campaigns...
Or should I double my budget?
Google Says
According to Google turn it off until October 24th, then double down ...
Pausing my AdWord porn campaign in Iran
during Ramadan. Highly pertinant thread as far as that goes :-)
Huh, that news channel will be the last one left standing for America when the secular progressives welcome in the Islamo-fascists with open arms!
Oops
"This is FOX News crap, really..."
Huh, that news channel will be the last one left standing for America when the secular progressives welcome in the Islamo-fascists with open arms!
So...
Where's the bachnalian holiday? You know, the one with no prohibitions? Celebrated with joints, bongs, and Bukowski?
I was going to suggest
an addendum to Festivus until I read that some people are taking it in a more 'serious' direction.
Liberalia
The senate outlawed Bacchanalia in 186 BC unless you had special permission, although some modern colleges hold festivals today...
Will Online Casino Signups Decrease During Legislation?
Will Online Casino Signups Decrease During Legislation?
I don't see anyone complaining about the casino thread being on the front page.
According to Google turn it
Ahh, that's much better. Welcome to ThreadWatch™
I also see it's been good for business:
ok here is the deal
look at the porn trend from last year =P
Trends for Fun
Trend for sex which shows a tapering off the first week in October which was when Ramadan started in 2005.
Long term both porn and sex are on the decline. Well this one I'm not touching ...
Try comparing with US data
Try comparing with US data for "lent" and "porn". Looks like a rise during the summer holidays, and a BIG spike over the festive season of peace and goodwill....
[yoda] Christmas leads to eggnog, eggnog leads to inebriation, inebriation leads to WANKING [/yoda]
So, tell me I'm wrong :D