Microsoft Threatens the EU with ANOTHER delay of Vista

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Microsoft on Thursday threatened to delay the release of Windows Vista in the Europe Union unless EU antitrust regulators spell out the changes they demand in the operating system.

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Topsy turvy logic

Wouldn't we normally expect Micro$oft to at least feel threatened by the EU regulators or something, rather than issuing threats about a delay of a commercial product they want to make another pile of money with?

While it's perfectly rational for them to want a compliance assurance to forego further fines, trying to shift the blame for any delays on the regulators is downright hilarious. As if M$ didn't know how full well how to implement its very own proprietary delays, LOL.

So what if nobody's missing that Vista thingy in the first place? I mean, it's not as if the EU's defense security or the economy were at stake by Mr Gates's company delaying an OS upgrade we never asked for.

Is that supposed to be a demo of MS Blackmail 1.0b at work, perhaps?

It seems like a delay would

It seems like a delay would hurt Microsoft more than it would hurt the EU. It would mean that the current EU version of Windows would get more and more out of date while Linux and Mac OS X continue to evolve.

And if it really does hurt the EU then I think the effect will be much like Russia cutting off the natural gas - the EU customers will seriously start looking for other alternatives.

Either way it is a loose-loose scenario for MS.

Microsoft just wants to be fully compliant with EU regulations

The EU is just trying to steal money from MS:

"It is up to Microsoft to accept and implement its responsibilities as a near monopolist to ensure full compliance with EU competition rules and in particular the prohibition on abuse of a dominant market position,'' the commission said in the statement.

I'm sorry, but that's just Bullshit. Basically, the EU is saying "no matter what you release, we are going to fine you hundreds of millions - possiably billions of dollars more. We won't help you comply with our rulings to not pay those fines."

And you guys may laugh off the logic of this, but If Microsoft considers it too risky to release in Europe, they just won't do it.

Make no mistake, if Microsoft decides not to sell Vista in Europe until 12 months after they started everywhere else in the world, it would have profound negative impact on Europe's computer industry.

Nah...

If Macdonalds decides not to sell the Supa King Size Whoppa in Europe until 12 months after they started everywhere else in the world, it would have profound negative impact on Europe's food industry.

We'll muddle through somehow...

As a European Microsoft Development Partner

you're getting Visat beta versions regularly anyway.

Oh yeah?

* * * Make no mistake, if Microsoft decides not to sell Vista in Europe until 12 months after they started everywhere else in the world, it would have profound negative impact on Europe's computer industry. * * *

Sorry, but that's complete bollocks.

I've already heard enough Microshite F.U.D. in the last two decades to last another millennium.

Please don't add to it.

From the way things are looking

No one's going to buy Vista anyway.

The latest version of office is being panned by everyone, so no ones buying that either.

A lot of the major companies and government are only just upgrading to Windows 2000 and haven't got XP through security tests yet.

I can't see microsoft losing

I can't see microsoft losing out. They'll just sell more XP instead. No skin of Bill's nose.

It'll all be resolved well before Linux catches up. But most people won't touch linux anyway, me included, even if it's just as good because it's got an image of being for tech-heads, so no worrries on that front either.

Make no mistake, if

Make no mistake, if Microsoft decides not to sell Vista in Europe until 12 months after they started everywhere else in the world, it would have profound negative impact on Europe's computer industry.

I agree that there can be a negative impact, but there's also a benefit. A large number of bugs will be discovered during the first twelve months. The Europeans can sit this out and wait for the fixes in Windows Vista Service Pack 1.

>But most people won't touch

But most people won't touch linux anyway, me included, even if it's just as good because it's got an image of being for tech-heads, so no worrries on that front either.

Seriously get a free Ubuntu disk sent to you. (http://www.ubuntu.com). Not trying to teach you new tricks but I think you'd be surprised how far it's come on recently ;)

>>Seriously get a free

>>Seriously get a free Ubuntu disk sent to you. (http://www.ubuntu.com). Not trying to teach you new tricks but I think you'd be surprised how far it's come on recently ;)

I had to run a linux OS from my DVD drive the other day. All that scrolling text in the black screen made me nervous. It's intimidating when you don't undestand a single line of it :)

I can just imagine what my mum would think...

I had to run a linux OS from

I had to run a linux OS from my DVD drive the other day. All that scrolling text in the black screen made me nervous. It's intimidating when you don't undestand a single line of it :)

Windows does that too, under varying circumstances (typically when loading off a live cd, or running in a safe mode variant). I imagine OSX does too, but I've never had cause to see it ;)

The ubuntu website looked

The ubuntu website looked friendly enough..

It actually made a "Mac head" like me want to try it...until I saw the Open Office.

I've fought that application tooth and nail. No thank you.

All that scrolling text in

All that scrolling text in the black screen made me nervous

Seems somebody agrees with you on that one SlyOldDog, it's been dropped in the new version (still alpha though)

until I saw the Open Office.

I have to admit I'm still using MS Office through the wine conversion program. I ought to have another look at the *nix options again soon. I'm still seriously impressed with the progress it's making. I set up a Ubuntu file server with internet sharing/firewall in the office and it took under 30 mins - all click and play.

You can turn it off if you

You can turn it off if you want to be ignorant of it, just like Windows did as the default. But when a driver fails to load or find it's target, you will simply never know. Ever wait wait wait wait while "Windows loads"? It's waiting for a timeout period to expire before moving on... and you won't ever know that it's because you left your USB card reader connected with a non-bootable card in it, or disconnected your portable DVD drive, or whatever.

If you see Ubuntu fail on one of those lines, it's highlighted in color before the process moves on without it.

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