AdSense Popups? Legit?

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It is against the AdSense TOS to put ads in pop ups, but what if they are in a DHTML layer?

Adimpact.com, the company that powers ads in DHTML Layers (pop-ups that don't get blocked) has launched functionality that allows AdSense publishers to run AdSense creatives through Adimpact.com.

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Depends on what...

your definition of "up" is.

:)

Broken Link

Aaron, that link is broke :)

[edit] Was broke :)

When is a popup not a pop up

When its a < div > < span > or what ever tag.

A pop up is a new window. Not a bit of html positioned using CSS.

edit: nm

edit: nm

BTW... I wasn't really

BTW... I wasn't really outing here, Shawn submitted the story suggestion he posted about on his blog, and he is running the ads on his site.

When is a popup not a popup

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A pop up is a new window. Not a bit of html positioned using CSS.

Since when did you have to 'open a new window' to call it a popup? They're achieving the same thing as opening a new window using different technology. Achieving the same thing as a popup? Then it's a popup.

I expect you'd find pretty much 100% of consumers would see these as popups.That's all I've ever seen them as.

You might want to figure out

You might want to figure out the IP of whoever at google is checking / reviewing those ads and send them a slightly different version of the page.

Don't do it...

The T&Cs are very clear about not calling undue attention to the ads, which a popup does.

I've reported a few idiots with adsense on popups and scrolling javascript windows just to see what Google would do. One was yanked the next day, the other appeared to have lost his adsense account after ignoring them.

sure you did

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I've reported a few idiots with adsense on popups and scrolling javascript windows just to see what Google would do.

You know, this "reporting" behavior is bad for everybody. I'm just sayin', Bill. Knock me upside my hard head if what you said (quoted here) is not fukwit behavior. You ratted another webmaster for what is demonstrably debatable activities, just so you could see what Google would do?

Shame shame shame. I think you're spending too much time with the scrapers. You know what they say, you won't find the devil on the darker side.... the devil will find you.

You know, this "reporting"

You know, this "reporting" behavior is bad for everybody.

Not it isn't. It is only bad for one group of people. Thanks for letting us know the type of person you are.

Shame?

Sorry John, if you think reporting flagrant violators on AdSense policies which are ripping off the advertisers and driving them out of the content network makes me a "fukwit" then you obviously don't use AdSense nor do you make any serious coin from it.

If you did use AdSense, or were an AdWords advertiser, you wouldn't have such ridiculous attitudes unless you're one of the idiots violating AdSense terms just to drive up your own checkbook balance.

For someone claiming to be so intelligent I can't believe you're sticking up for webmasters trying to game AdSense and ripping off advertisers, you lost a few respect points with those comments.

it's all in the language

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Sorry John, if you think reporting flagrant violators on AdSense policies which are ripping off the advertisers and driving them out of the content network makes me a "fukwit" then you obviously don't use AdSense nor do you make any serious coin from it.

If you did use AdSense, or were an AdWords advertiser, you wouldn't have such ridiculous attitudes unless you're one of the idiots violating AdSense terms just to drive up your own checkbook balance.

For someone claiming to be so intelligent I can't believe you're sticking up for webmasters trying to game AdSense and ripping off advertisers, you lost a few respect points with those comments.

I only disagree completely with the parts I bolded. Most of those are skewed from fact by the use of superlatives and the like anyway. I don't think we started by talking about "flagrant violators". I also don't know where I made claims of intelligence (?)

Of course I game AdSense. It is a game. I don't break the rules, but I certainly try and take advantage of market inefficiencies whenever possible. If I don't, people like graywolf will. Why should I leave profits on the table for another player to take home?

Back to AdImpact... looks like they count impressions even if not served (?) Check out the FAQ page:

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Your Web Browser must be able to accept Cookies from Adimpact.com for the system to function properly. If you are using a Privacy Enhanced Browser ( such as IE 6.0 ) you must set up the browser to allow cookies from this domain.

Of course your users are not changing their privacy settings to specifically allow AdImpact.com cookies, so the page loads with no ads. HOWEVER, I see that it gets counted as an impression anyway (for which they charge a fee). Not good. Of course the referenced article links to AdImpact via an affiliate code so buyer beware.

Sigh

You can twist it all you want, enjoy.

popup is as popup does?

A "popup" floating layer div thingie will disappear as soon as you close the window or tab that spawned it. Quite different from a new window that stays intact.

But are hovering ads icky? Sure.

Just please don't be tempted to make the block of ads follow your mouse cursor around wherever it goes. Now that would be really bad LOL

>Just please don't be

>Just please don't be tempted to make the block of ads follow your mouse cursor around wherever it goes.

Goes off to create script to disable back button, disable address bar, disable closing IE, and create a floating div to follow your mouse.

Part 2: write ebook that guarantees a 99% + CTR and sell it with an ebook about making millions from AdSense.

[blockquote>I've reported a

I've reported a few idiots with adsense on popups and scrolling javascript windows just to see what Google would do.

Sorry, but you lost me at the "to see what Google do" disclosure. You're playing a game to poke the beast just as those "victims" of yours did. Not everybody will buy any tarting up of the underlying reasons with feigned ethics / protection of advertisers arguments.

@Yes

The ethics aren't feigned at all but learning which violations Google tolerates or terminates as an AdWords user is valuable to know IMO. Derive from that what you will, I know what I did and why, perhaps my choice of words was lacking but that wasn't the intent. If you don't believe me, too bad, I know the truth of the matter regardless of how it came across.

as Pooh says, "think think think"

I exercise a wee bit of artistic license and add the bold...

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I don't thinkThe ethics aren't feigned at all but learning which violations Google tolerates or terminates as an AdWords user is valuable to know IMO. Derive from that what you will, I think I know what I did and I think I know why, perhaps my choice of words was lacking but that wasn't the intent. If you don't believe me, too bad, I think I know the truth of the matter regardless of how it came across.

The point is we only see what we see, so restating what we see as truth is.....redundant and unnecessary.

countdown begins

[stealth editor's note - I've nuked the drive-by spam post above this ]

exppopy out of here in 3...2...1...

wow... 7 months to a

wow... 7 months to a rebuttal. Anyway...

Reporting on those who interpret Google's guidelines differently than you do is wrong. Google is a commercial entity and one that plays 3 sides of the web advertising business (sells ads, takes a commission on placed ads, and sets the rank of pages that get served as results). If anyone has an unfair advantage in that game, it's Google. So reporting others who have not clearly violated the letter of the rules so Google can knock them, is bad for everybody. It's feeding the monopoloy. If you don't think feeding the monopoly more power is bad for everybody, I can't help you out of your closed mind.

Bill said that popups clearly draw attention to the ads... last I looked that was his opinion, and not fact (remember..thos thread was 7 months ago). To be honest, if Bill said he asked Google if that was ok, I wouldn't object. But he didn't do that. He reported them as spam and also said he did it "to see what would happen" (not to improve the quality of the SERPs or even more reasonable IMHO, to secure his own competitive position as a fair player).

SteveMarks infers above that I am one of "one group of people" but doesn't have the guts to say what that is. When he has such courage, I welcome the clarification, and will address it.

I have heard your argument before

When I was 13 and told by the cool kids to not snitch because they were stealing stuff from the school. It didn't hold up then, it doesn't hold up now.

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