Incoming....! The Blogosphere gets Ethics - Heaven Help us all....

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Blog ethics movement afoot
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Holy sh!t, when will the madness end eh?

Jason Calacanis has taken it upon himself to police the blogs. Wore, Nick Denton is backing him - Who do these people think they are?

Hey! I've got a popular blog, i guess that means everyone else with a blog is stupid and needs telling that. It's clearly my god given duty to inform the public of bad blogs and blog posts and protect society from evil bloggers! --- Give me a break...

Remind you of anyone we know in the web dev world?

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Not the police at all...

thanks for posting about the ethics group... it's a complex issue and let me take a little time to respond to your comments.

>> Hey! I've got a popular blog, i guess
>> that means everyone else with a blog
>> is stupid and needs telling that.

We're not telling anyone to do anything. We are planning on making a set of guidelines that a group of folks agree to.

These guidelines are to protect the readers... you know, help them know if something is an advertisement or editorial, who's paying for what, etc.

If some other folks out there like the idea, they can join us.

If people don't like the concepts they can ignore what we are doing, or even better start their own group.

These types of groups exist in print, TV, radio and every other medium, and protecting the readers is a good thing in my book... I'm sure you agree with that!

>> It's clearly my god given duty to
>> inform the public of bad blogs and
>> blog posts and protect society
>> from evil bloggers! --- Give me a break...

Well, you're fighting for people to have their own voice on their blog right? If my voice is to point out ethical issues isn't that my right? Will you defend my right to speak my mind?

I can understand how this would rub you the wrong way if we were trying to POLICE the blogosphere... however, this ethics group wouldn't be going out there trying to write ethics tickets to offenders... I agree that would be very stupid and obnoxious.

The goal is simple to help build trust in blogs and set up some blog etiquette if you will.

All the best, Jason

ps - nice site

Hi Jason

Welcome to Threadwatch, do introduce yourself :)

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These guidelines are to protect the readers... you know, help them know if something is an advertisement or editorial, who's paying for what, etc.

This is what bothers me a little. Firstly, when it all comes out in the wash, a blog is just a website with a few nifty communications tools surrounded by a 'culture' - What about other types of site? For some years we've all been making websites and many of those websites, particularly in the affilate market feel no need to disclose relationships or point out differences in content.

Do you not feel that readers are intelligent enough to make up their own minds? Some surely aren't but I'd propose that the majority of blog readers probably have a fair grip of what they consume and look at posts in a reasonably intelligent and informed manner.

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These types of groups exist in print, TV, radio and every other medium, and protecting the readers is a good thing in my book... I'm sure you agree with that!

Sure, kind of... I'll confess to having not sat down and had a hard think about this whole issue, I saw the post, and knee jerked into my own opinion - I like this way of doing things, it hwlps me crystalize my thoughts on any given subject and im certainly not above changing my mind or doing a Nick W U-Turn™ on occasion.

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I can understand how this would rub you the wrong way if we were trying to POLICE the blogosphere... however, this ethics group wouldn't be going out there trying to write ethics tickets to offenders... I agree that would be very stupid and obnoxious.

Then how would you be effective? Without some kind of action, in some form or another isn't this just a lot of talk on a website with no consequence or incentive other than agree/disagree with the goals of such a group? - I mean, how would readers tell a site you approved of from a site you didn't? Surely you arent going to just chat about ehtics on blogethics.org - what is it that you're proposing exactly?

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The goal is simple to help build trust in blogs and set up some blog etiquette if you will.

Sounds like a futile battle to me mate :) the blogosphere is already so large that that term 'blogosphere' will soon become so blurred and meaningless as to be lost. with the advent of MSN Spaces and the explosion of blogging into the mainstream and acceptance of blogging as a medium in it's own right by business, how many will follow?

Popular bloggers like yourself, Nick, etc etc will most likely remain so but with potentially millions of people using blogs as a way to converse online over the next few years aren't you essentially trying to set up a set of guidelines for general conversation?

Thanks for taking time to come over here and post on this, at the very least it's an interesting subject and your thoughts on the above would be appreciated...

>nice site

Thankyou, young as yet but growing fast :)

Nick

Did someone mention blog?

Seems to be an exercise in futility trying to police the blogworld. I imagine natural selection will sort it out without any interference from any self-appointed attempts to push standards in a particular direction.

Readers are smart... and should be respected

>> Do you not feel that readers are intelligent enough
>> to make up their own minds? Some surely aren't but
>> I'd propose that the majority of blog readers probably
>> have a fair grip of what they consume and look at
>> posts in a reasonably intelligent and informed manner.

Two issues:

1. Are readers smart? Of course they are.

2. Should you lie to them? No, people should not lie or deceive the readers. You should not make them work to figure out what is going on.

It's about fair play and respect.

With your logic people should put whatever they want in food and not disclose it because "people are smart" and they can figure out the contents.

Sure, people could take their food to a lab and figure out what's in it... but we have a better life here in the US because the food industry has some healthy regulation.

There are some people who thi

There are some people who think that Macromedia should only sell Flash to 'qualified' designers because in the wrong hands it can do so much damage, with excessive and unnecessary download times, poor use of layout, colour and animation. They could get together with the blog police and form a group - people who take themselves too seriously.

>>No, people should not lie o

>>No, people should not lie or deceive the readers. You should not make them work to figure out what is going on.

blogs are biased and reflect an individuals view of the world - that's part of their attraction but if someone with a political blog wants to write about what a great candidate Mr X is then they believe it's the truth and I may think it's deceptive. It's not quite as clearcut as labelling GM modified ingredients.

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