Search Engine Press is a new site by David Vincent Gagne, sorta like Digg, but focused on SEO and search news. Pligg is free software used to create vertical Digg-like communities.
Not all websites are in News Now or other news aggregator verticals. I just saw that this site is, but other than that (and the new Topix.net w blogs) I think my sites have virtually no exposure on those types of sites.
Sometimes sites outside of the normal realm of trusted published content channels have the scoop.
I think some people are also attracted to the idea of being able to actively edit and participate.
Dont forget Wink.com our leeching buddy that sucks up data from Digg, Furl, Slashdot and Yahoo MyWeb to figure out what's the hottest of the hot.
Advertising on the web used to be a simple hop from Google to your site but quickly is becoming a pyramid scheme as more and more sites are trying to wedge themselves between your site and the visitors so they collect that first click on the ad.
I made SEP because there's so much #$@% spam seo-news out there ... and I wanted to have a place where i could see links that others had already tagged as legit. I think applying the digg model to a vertical like this empowers the community to see (and get, and publish) what they really want.
The more active you are, the more karma you have. When people tag something you've posted as spam (or crap, or whatever) you lose karma. But it's a group effort. The good stuff floats to the front page. The useless dregs sink to the bottom.
I don't have time to read *all* the news. And I certainly am not going to trust an rss feed as being full of "valuable" content.
He's not pulling in feeds, people submit links, and provide the description. The links go to directly to the content author's site. All he pulls is the after the link is provided.
The site is as good as the comunity makes it. And for the record, I am not affiliated with the site, just a friend of David. I do like the concept though, and I'm kicking myslef for not thinking of it first.
Digg was fascinating when it appeared to be a slashdot without the stoopid entrenched community comments. Then it got stoopid. Still too new to be overrun by insider sub-mobs, but it appears to be fractioning already as users get tired of the newbie diggs promoting the same old stuff day after day (so they post the same old comments, day after day).
That's why we need a good open source Digg-site-maker and lots of niche digg sites- Digg is forums 2.0
I heartily agree. The main difference here is that the topic is much more specific.
When you have thousands and thousands of users talking about a topic as broad as "technology", you cannot possibly expect that they are all going to care enough about a certain sub-topic to know "how" to rank / rate a link about it. People see a link about something they know very little and are apt to just go with a gut-reaction instinct as to how they rate it.
When you have users talking about a very specific topic -- in this case, search engine developments / news -- then you are much more likely to see, for lack of a better term, "validated" ranks / rates.
I wanted to use pligg...
I wanted to try pligg but then I saw that it is a "web 2.0 Content Management System". Too bad. I'm still making Web 1.0 content. Sigh.
I don't get it. What makes
I don't get it. What makes this better than http://www.newsnow.co.uk/newsfeed/?name=Search+Engines ? Is it just that we can comment and vote or am I just hopelessly stuck in Web 1.0?
I never made it to 1.0
I'm still on Web 0.8. Alpha. Not even beta.
Not all websites are in News
Not all websites are in News Now or other news aggregator verticals. I just saw that this site is, but other than that (and the new Topix.net w blogs) I think my sites have virtually no exposure on those types of sites.
Sometimes sites outside of the normal realm of trusted published content channels have the scoop.
I think some people are also attracted to the idea of being able to actively edit and participate.
Wink
Dont forget Wink.com our leeching buddy that sucks up data from Digg, Furl, Slashdot and Yahoo MyWeb to figure out what's the hottest of the hot.
Advertising on the web used to be a simple hop from Google to your site but quickly is becoming a pyramid scheme as more and more sites are trying to wedge themselves between your site and the visitors so they collect that first click on the ad.
Partial Feeds
As long as they do partial feeds it is ok with me.
Edit? Hmm, I will have to register in there and look around, thanks.
charming
Hey claus, you're approaching quaint and charming. Don't change a thing :-)
re: What makes it different?
I made SEP because there's so much #$@% spam seo-news out there ... and I wanted to have a place where i could see links that others had already tagged as legit. I think applying the digg model to a vertical like this empowers the community to see (and get, and publish) what they really want.
The more active you are, the more karma you have. When people tag something you've posted as spam (or crap, or whatever) you lose karma. But it's a group effort. The good stuff floats to the front page. The useless dregs sink to the bottom.
I don't have time to read *all* the news. And I certainly am not going to trust an rss feed as being full of "valuable" content.
re: Partial Feeds
You can get a feed of the front page stories, the "sandboxed" stories, each category, or your search terms. Is that what you mean?
Partial Feeds
I think what Aaron is referring to is sites taking only partial feeds instead of full feeds.
feeds
He's not pulling in feeds, people submit links, and provide the description. The links go to directly to the content author's site. All he pulls is the after the link is provided.
The site is as good as the comunity makes it. And for the record, I am not affiliated with the site, just a friend of David. I do like the concept though, and I'm kicking myslef for not thinking of it first.
kicking yourself...
Yep...every industry needs a digg clone...definitely shoulda been on top of that one.
I really like the idea..I'm sure that will be cool if it gets some good adoption.
Sounds like a good idea on
Sounds like a good idea on paper but digg publishes stunningly false information all the time. Mob rule doesn't mean good governance.
so true
Digg was fascinating when it appeared to be a slashdot without the stoopid entrenched community comments. Then it got stoopid. Still too new to be overrun by insider sub-mobs, but it appears to be fractioning already as users get tired of the newbie diggs promoting the same old stuff day after day (so they post the same old comments, day after day).
That's why we need a good open source Digg-site-maker and lots of niche digg sites- Digg is forums 2.0
mob rule
I heartily agree. The main difference here is that the topic is much more specific.
When you have thousands and thousands of users talking about a topic as broad as "technology", you cannot possibly expect that they are all going to care enough about a certain sub-topic to know "how" to rank / rate a link about it. People see a link about something they know very little and are apt to just go with a gut-reaction instinct as to how they rate it.
When you have users talking about a very specific topic -- in this case, search engine developments / news -- then you are much more likely to see, for lack of a better term, "validated" ranks / rates.
Digg doesn't seem to scale
Digg doesn't seem to scale well. I constantly get page-waiting times above my patience threshold when i try to use the site.