Current Thinkng on Linking for Google

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Linking For Google - The Web We Weave
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Jim Hedger writes a good piece on linking with regard to recent shake ups and the theory that unnatural linking was to blame...

The sudden disappearance of these sites, along with a notable difference in search results under other highly competitive phrases has led many in the SEO/SEM industry to conclude Google has implemented some of the spam-link busting filters outlined in their 63-point patent document published two weeks ago. After examining results displayed at Google since Friday April 8, we too are drawn to this conclusion. In other words, something has changed in the way Google ranks sites. Given a lack of any other credible information, we are looking toward the sorting methods and ranking techniques Google has protected under U.S. and international patent laws to provide details.

The article asks more questions than it answers, as these things tend to do, but it certainly provides some food for thought on what may be working, and what may constitute a ranking death wish when aquiring links right now...

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I dont know if this could be related to the topic, but, have you notice an increase of "bad indexed" pages (no TITLE and no description) in Google?

Threadwatch has 9.000/20.000 with that problem. I have seen that there had been an increment month ago, and in the last weeks the problem turn back.

spank me for going OT

but the last month or so, a lot of my pages are down to URL only. i had some pages that were similar (content pages with a separate comments page for it) so i'm trying to filter those out with robots.txt.

i've heard before it means google found the page and hasn't ranked it yet or gotten it into the index, but these are pages that had a title and desc at one time.

i've also noticed a lot of meta desc for the snippet rather than on page snippets.

again, spank me if i'm taking this too far OT ;)

ooops

Michel's right... Nick, you better get that .htaccess code in place to rewrite the www-subdomain. Take your pick - these two take charge of vanity domains as well if there are any:

1) If you want "www.threadwatch.org" (with www)

RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} .
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^www\.threadwatch\.org$
RewriteRule (.*) http://www.threadwatch.org/$1 [R=301,L]

2) If you want "threadwatch.org" (without www)

RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} .
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^threadwatch\.org$
RewriteRule (.*) http://threadwatch.org/$1 [R=301,L]

I'm not a 100% convinced yet

I'm not a 100% convinced yet. This is like saying "bad webmaster, no buying advertising that gives you link text". WTF is it illegal to buy ads space now unless it's a document.write java ad that the SE's can't see?

 

>This is like saying "bad webmaster, no buying advertising that gives you link text". WTF is it illegal to buy ads space now unless it's a document.write java ad that the SE's can't see?

I think Google is trying to run cross stream from the other engines. Hoping people will just focus on the other engines and consider Google rankings a lost liter or something they can maybe hope for a long way down the road.

 

Still doesn't cover the issue of me owning a site with lets say 20,000 pages and the pointing spammy link text to 5 of my competitors.

have gun - will travel

Still doesn't cover the issue of me owning a site with lets say 20,000 pages and the pointing spammy link text to 5 of my competitors.

Exactly. Or worse yet - hundreds of sites with hundreds of pages each. If it ever becomes that easy to nuke sites I think one might earn more moola by spacking around the competition - gun for hire.

 

"Now throw your hands up in the air
And wave'em around like you just don't care"

I agree with seobook and Goog's trying to throw everyone off game so they'll give up on them. It's working on me, btw. lol

I think seomike nails it too - we're looking at a messier game since it's clear on how to torch competitors. Just Great. Maybe that will be the new version of Google SEO - not optimizing your site to get high in rankings, but optimizing network pages to knock competitors out of your way and you rise by default.

hmmm we should play with Google now. Pick the whitehouse or something big and knock em out of the serps. We could call it Google Bowling. lol

GoogleBowling

I like that, you heard it here folks :O)

In fact, I am going to link to this thread with GoogleBowling as the anchor text right now..

 

More good stuff from volotilegx

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I can see all of the "button pusher" SEOs frantically hacking their scripts to add cron-job linking systems which create new links using random keywords for link text on a gradual basis. Sounds like fun.

More good stuff from volotilegx

Heh,
How long will the AdSense last on a site called, ihategoogle.org? Breaks the recently updated TOS.

 

You only need to rank #19, you just then need to fuck the 18 above you.

Only thing is while you're baning them in the ass to get them out of G you're beefing them up in MSN and Yahoo. I bet their going be pissed because their serps are going to be inflated with link bombed sites. LOL. And then there's the point that you may help your competition in MSN and Y by bombing them.

 

>>>>you're beefing them up in MSN and Yahoo

Not if you ban MSNbot and Slurp from the site that you're using to fuck them from.

Off topic but...

I can't help but giggle at Aaron's missing Coca-Cola bottle:

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a lost liter

 

>>> Not if you ban MSNbot and Slurp from the site that you're using to fuck them from.

a touche' :)

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