Failed Coup at ThreadWatch Turns into Ruthless Bloodbath

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Reports are slowly coming out of the Peoples Republic of Threadwatch that late last week there was an attempted coup by several junior editorial officers. Hard facts are difficult to come by since the country's communication network has been repeatedly attacked the last few months with WMDs that people on the street refer to as "getting on digg".

What is clear is that the rulers of ThreadWatch are in firm control and they are ruthless in putting down this coup. They have even gone as far as using castration and turning one editorial officer into a female singer.

(sorry couldnt resist having some fun posting what i noticed :))

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I recently fixed the feed,

I recently fixed the feed, added a bunch of editors to try to get more life into the site, removed a bunch of editors who mistook TW as Digg (even though some of them were some of my best friends and I never would have thought they would have been so aggressive at spamming a friend), tried upgrading to a newer cms and failed, broke the archives, fixed the archives, broke the .htaccess file, fixed the .htaccess file, and will probably try some other new stuff soon.

The problem with the TW model is that it doesnt work well unless we are directly on top of the news and have a huge following OR others have enough incentive to submit useful news directly. Most people prefer to post on their blog and then ask a buddy for the submission. And what is newsworthy has gone downhill because news is overdone in so many spots in the tech / marketing scene (with the likes of Microsoft creating fake research that is nothing more than an advertisement to knock down the competition), and Dave and I (and other people who were core to building up the site) are exceptionally busy with so many projects.

signal to noise?

I always thought of TW as a sort of digg -- but editorially controlled. Sure, I could read 200 blogs, or I could read TW for the best of the best. I assume that it's news that's been posted elsewhere first.

contributing

Are there incentives for editors to contribute breaking news stories here rather than first posting on their blogs?

It's a shame...

I always thought TW was a collection of already-broken-news-stories, too. As a previous poster commented - somewhere to read them all, rather than traveling from blog to blog, etc.

Too bad.

I've personally tried a few times to submit stories - some made it in, some didn't - maybe this perspective clears it up for me (the stuff I was sending was old news, maybe...).

For the record - yep, if I crawl across something fresh, it goes on my blog first, then to other places. Sorry... :(

It's partly my fault...

Sometimes I feel there's no signal and no noise.

I think the issue is these

I think the issue is these two are fine
- great stuff here and here, but here they think different about this and this is what I think of it all
- the best piece on duplicate content here. check this killer quote "blah blah" and I think

but we get into trouble when we write stories that add no value on our end and resemble someone else's rss feed. basically if our value add is so thin that were are nearly a Digg it is hard to justify not automating the editorial unless we are

Are there incentives for editors to contribute breaking news stories here rather than first posting on their blogs?

that is part of the problem, but the solution is not a big circlejerk where everything gets recycled unless that leads to conversation here, but I think the feed here was broke for a bit too...which was shite of me.

I also struggle with when to publish things here too, but we may mix some things up soon to add more incentive. of course I can add marketing and get more traffic too, but that alone is not incentive enough to get the right people, and many of the best SEOs don't want to share too much, which I also think is fair given how long and hard some work to build their competitive edge.

Got to admit, sometimes I've

Got to admit, sometimes I've not submitted something at TW because I've *presumed* someone else would already have submitted it - then for some reason I'm surprised when no one does.

TW doesn't offer any incentive to submit, but I'm a sucker for community efforts and helping for no reason other than to help.

So if I see anything worth covering from my reading, I'll try to make more effort to push it here.

tw is dead...

...at least in its current life, imho. Times have changed. Social is not so social anymore ...more of "MY blog and 10,000 blogs like mine." Also, I think the era of linkbait-screaming-titles has devalued social in general and TW in particular.

*cough* Absentee ownership hasn't helped TW, either.

>TW doesn't offer any incentive to submit, but I'm a sucker for community efforts and helping for no reason other than to help.

I agree that there's no incentive, it's lacking in more ways than one. That said, I think part of the disincentive has come along with the ever-increasing recognition of the value self-promoting one's lone keystrokes rather than the collective thoughts of a forum.

While on the general subject, I don't see other forums fairing all too well, either. Some that appear to be active are having their threads constantly fluffed by admins and mods --something that wasn't required as much a few years back.

..

>>"tw is dead..."

A good link bate headline, but maybe a tad overstated (I hope).

IMHO - TW started getting into a problem area when it allowed people to use TW to promote their own blogs.

why don't you give it to em

why don't you give it to em straight, rc? no need to dance around, waffling on the fence, pulling punches to cushion the blow... just say it the way it is and be done with it:) ehehehehehhe

I like the place, myself. It's actually the first new place I've gone to on a daily basis in the last 3 years. I don't have my own blog so if I find something of interest, I'll push it your way now I realize you are looking. as far as self promoters go, its par for the course... anyone that says anything different is selling you something, you just didn't feel the hook set yet.

to cushion the blow

That WAS cushioned. (--insert Nicholson's "You can't handle the truth!" quote here--)

I don't think there is any

I don't think there is any problem with Threadwatch when good stories are posted. Whether it means the site needs a person or two that gets more involved, or perhaps incentive to someone to dig up the top stories, the format has worked for awhile now.

The problem was with the non-stop self promotion. Half the threads were about some random blog post by someone in the "loop", some promotion of event/conference/etc, or some new product/service being offered by someone in the mix. While an occasional thread on that stuff is fine, it started becoming a non-stop pat on the back to each others friends. The site just needs to get back to doing what it did best, discussing interesting news and bashing the shit out of Google.

The problem was with the

The problem was with the non-stop self promotion. Half the threads were about some random blog post by someone in the "loop", some promotion of event/conference/etc, or some new product/service being offered by someone in the mix.

I 2nd (3rd) that notion. Though it's not that rampant, just a few bad eggs are spoiling the whole bunch, and I've learned to just ignore any new threads started by them as it probably points to their blog which is probably in my feed reader anyway.

Granted in-the-loop self promotion used to be called networking and it separates those who do from those who talk about doing, but I always looked at this place above that. Sure XYZ may be rolling out a new project and sure enough you'll see spontaneous posts about it on 10 different sites within 3 days, that's to be expected, just not really worthy of this place.

I wanna see a different slant on the news story, perhaps contradicting views not the same ole WMW kissing Google's butt all day or DP wondering when the next PageRank update is.

Maybe you could add a members announcement area where check out my new Blog/conference/social networking/spam bot/review site/affiliate marketing idea/ stuff could be placed and those interested would go. Sometimes noise is signal if placed in the right category.

Different Landscape

The "search news" space is way different than it was 18,12 or even 6 months ago, many more people realize the value of being involved and "getting the scoop".

There is a more competition at the top, to be the "search news source". While it remains unspoken and everyone's friends when they meet, ultimately it's a business and the one with the most eyeballs, and attention share wins the most advertising revenue.

There's a lot more competition at the bottom, the regurgitated news/ seo echo chamber is much bigger and "noisy" then it was in the past, simply having an opinion isn't good enough any more.

There's more competition at the middle, up and comers who are moving in and eyeing the choice A-List SEO blogger spots realize the value of their opinion/commentary and much more likely to use the good stuff to promote themselves, instead of someone else.

The SEO conference schedules are insane. If you want to score the "whale" clients or simply be seen as a leader in the space scoring a seat on a top panel is almost a prerequisite at this stage. Attending all the SEO related conferences like ADTech, SWSX, BlogHer, and Blog World are great for your frequent flier programs but are hell on your work schedule and personal life.

About 50% of the people I talk to via email/phone/im tell me they are the busiest they have ever been. Of the remaining - 25% are up to their eyeballs with their own projects or client work, and 10% can't/aren't taking any new projects or clients for the next 6 months.

From where I sit and what I see it's much different world with an entirely different landscape.

Interesting Post

Graywolf, really interesting post. Its difficult at best to find time to read up on whats happening much less post nowadays, as you said too busy with business. TW is one of four places I check on a daily or weekly basis. Whatever is posted it has to really catch my attention to keep reading.

*cough* Absentee ownership

*cough* Absentee ownership hasn't helped TW, either.

Totally agree. I need to be more involved somehow.

There is a more competition at the top, to be the "search news source". While it remains unspoken and everyone's friends when they meet, ultimately it's a business and the one with the most eyeballs, and attention share wins the most advertising revenue.

At this point I don't give a crap about ad revenues (I turn down most potential advertisers and I think ad revs are worthless in this market unless you have a brand oriented type site or some offline conference). I am more interested in making this site be something I get value out of as a reader. I still get some, but not as much as it was back in the day.

Threadwatch

I highly doubt it's Ad Revenue... virtually everyone that visits this site has seen every type of ad model out there and for the most part the type of people that frequent Threadwatch are not prone to click on ads or even respond to them. Aaron does not have adsense inside each post.

However standing back and looking at the resources at hand, the overall members of Threadwatch are what most people would consider tier 1 SEO's. The people that hang out here generally have names outside of Threadwatch.

The fact that as group I don't think you will find a place that has more talent.

Threadwatch is one of those sites that is generally required reading for our industry.

That being said, the internet moves quick.. just like the SERPS.. hence the issues that even started this thread.

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The SEO conference schedules are insane. If you want to score the "whale" clients or simply be seen as a leader in the space scoring a seat on a top panel is almost a prerequisite at this stage. Attending all the SEO related conferences like ADTech, SWSX, BlogHer, and Blog World are great for your frequent flier programs but are hell on your work schedule and personal life.

I generally tend to shy away from that... maybe because I live in a small town in Pennsylvania or because I have a family that includes a 2 year old boy that yells 'Daddy Daddy' every 10 seconds when I am home.

I love SEO.. but I love my family too.. striking a balance is key to being successful in both.. going to 1.5 million confrences to hear the latest buzzword for SEO isn't exactly going to help business.. everyone keeps saying 'you need to attend them'. But why? I am so tapped with clients I am putting in 60-80 hours a week.. All that Whale Client is going to do is make me put in 100 hours... and drive all the employees crazy with their similar work hours.

Sometimes it's not the money, or the whale client.. it's that little 2 year old at home that wants to test out his big wheel that he can't understand how to ride yet.

this site

has given me insight into the old school or O.G. SEO A-List club. When I first began reading it I was struck by the profanity and cliquish nature of the posts and comments. The profanity abated once the ownership changed. When SEOBook took over I guess I expected a little more spillover from his great sites but more often he is absent and the posts take on a Valleywaggish and arrogant temperament.
The way to make this more relevant is by integrating more content from the editors own sites, so what if it's self promotion. Isn't that the essence of blogging in the first place?
The collective body of expertise among the editors here could rival the efforts of SEL if it was concentrated. Pop some ads up and share the bread in shares. The site has a proper reputation and a brand to work with. What I read above indicates burnout and a lack of focus.
Make the site more inviting to SEO and SEM newbs., make them want to visit again.
Best of luck Aaron, without knowing it you have been helpful to me over the last couple of years. Tons of newbies could benefit if you posted useful material here pointing back to your other sites.
This site is far from dead.

nothing happening

TW has always been a place to speak freely about what's going on in search/Internet business land. That changes every once in a while, then it loses confidence, then it shuts up and then once again, people start using TW to speak freely about what's going on in search/Internet business land.

I think the "UFO" stuff hurts TW, as does some of the political stuff, and some of the "So and So's a Dick" stuff. And the "Joe just posted an Awesom Must Read" crap is totally irritating.

What happened to the "website" direct link? I thought that encouraged good submissions(?)

I don't know about this coup stuff... once the list of editors got longer than the list of online users, internal politics was bound to be more interesting than content, right?

direction - direction - direction

I also mentioned this a long time ago.
Get rid of the politics and cliquishness.
Get it out of the clouds and aim at SEO & SEM news.
Stop these ridiculous, childish personal attacks - it just turns most people off.

Profanity

I have a button at the bottom here that says 'Moderate comments'. Bollocks to that, time for an immoderate one.

The profanity abated once the ownership changed.

My fucking arse it did.

(And ... what John Andrews said. It's a sine wave.)

You've got to be fucking

You've got to be fucking kidding me. Abated? Bullshit. Simply changed a bit. 'Bloody' is just too fucking mild to be considered a proper swear word.

Bloody
Not really offensive to any group, seen as everyday sort of language

Arse
Mild, not really offensive

Bollocks
Mild language to most except one 55+ group who thinks quite offensive

Bum
Body part, mild, not really offensive to any group

Pissed
Not really offensive - just means drunk

If you need help some fucking help finding some decent goddamn swear words, check out the Guardian Seems British Asian Females think every damn thing is offensive. Bunch of punanis.

There must still be some value...

There must still be some value in TW as I didn't post "what John Andrews said" + whatever because I thought it looked too much like noise...

...but, since mat took the plunge, I'll just go for what he said.

And MikeMor, I'm sure you're a very nice chap and we might have met in odd places and stuff, but your idea of TW is my idea of hell. Mutual masturbation for SEM bloggers is what we need less of, not more - and hopefully that is what Aaron has in mind with these moves.

*cough* what has the post

*cough* what has the post above explaining the meaning of swear words got to do with this thread ?

I don't find it anoying or confusing, it just adds noise what is not required and you of all people should know better, just my opinion of which being a member here allows me to say what I feel ;)

its true to say there are a lot of very highly skilled seo/sem threadwatch members who do like to voice their opinions, there are 18 editors of which only a few make regular posts varying from daily to 3 weeks apart, is it a case of having your name showing at the right hand side giving you your name in lights so to speak ?

when this site was started by Nick W he was doing 99% of all posts and he worked very hard indeed to find breaking news from 100's of feeds on a daily basis, now we have 18 editors doing very little posting, is this also the fault of the management ?

its OK saying there is no incentive, there are not many sites give any incentives to the editors and some have made many 1,000's of posts over many years, are loyal members and post because they want to be part of a community on whatever site or forum that may be and have never considered it to be a stepping stone for finiancial gain

no disrespect to your comment MikeMor but threadwatch was never for newbies

I am going to try to do

I am going to try to do another upgrade of the core code next week. any other changes will stem from that.

there are 18 editors of

there are 18 editors of which only a few make regular posts

There's an amazing amount of spam that gets submitted to TW, so that usually needs removing and actual stories approving.

I know Brian, I was an

I know Brian, I was an editor when Nick owned it...

no disrespect to your

no disrespect to your comment MikeMor but threadwatch was never for newbies

Agree with that 100% Mick - I don't think TW needs to go after this audience.

TW is a daily visit for me too here. There does seem to be less of the 'thread watching' that used to go on though. Like most I guess, I don't have time to go through all the blogs and forums and come here to get the important points filtered out.

The level of experience of TW members adds value to that in the commentary.

I don't see a problem referencing blogs. I expect a lot of the good stuff has moved to personal blogs rather than forums. It makes good sense for those in the know to promote themselves these days. As to patting friends on the back - hell why not if it's deserved? Anyway the SEO clique is so small, it's rare I reference someone I haven't connected with.

TW doesn't offer any incentive to submit, but I'm a sucker for community efforts and helping for no reason other than to help.

So if I see anything worth covering from my reading, I'll try to make more effort to push it here.

Same here Brian. TW has given me a lot over the last few years, I'll try and give back some of that.

I don't see how TW is dead with so much talent here.

TW is neither dead nor

TW is neither dead nor dying. It's changed, and has periods of dormancy, but the same ol' faces keep coming back. Currently, I think it's evolved from an as-it-happens news source (when Nick had a direct neurojacked feed of about a million news sources, and did all the hard work for us) to a slower, more thoughtful place where the value lies in the quality of the discussion, rather than the speed of it.

The current "confederacy of dunces" thread is a good example, I think. There's talk of the Viacom / YT suit all over the damn WWW. I think the discussion here has been better than in most places, because the membership here actually has a clue about how things actually work online. There's a massive range of opinion on this topic, but that's fine, even useful. It's nice to be able to talk about it with people who understand what I think, even if they disagree - it's a rare treat in fact

Death and Dunces

I think that if 18 editors added one post per day, people would be complaining about the signal to noise ratio. Two posts per day from each editor would make TW a chore to read.

>>*cough* what has the post above explaining the meaning of swear words got to do with this thread ?

Might want to try some cough drops. ; ) What does profanity have to do with this thread? Nothing that I can discern but I certainly didn't bring it up first. I just commented on the changes.

What I know to be true is that if you posit a theory here, you better have more to back it up with than some bullshit that starts with 'on my site' or 'for my top 5 keywords'. Elsewhere, feel free to ramble on for hours or days about some bullshit theory that 'engages the community' and lets speculation breed more speculation, all of which often starts with nothing more than a brain fart.

Not for newbs.

"no disrespect to your comment MikeMor but threadwatch was never for newbies"

My mistake.

User : Guest - Ratio

If I was the proprietor here I would be very worried about the fact that there are 30 or more times as many people just reading at any one time than the number of users. What’s frightening them off becoming users? Why don’t they join and contribute. I have my own theory on that one.

The User to Guest Ratio seems about normal for a UGC site

CabbageLooking,

The User:Guest ratio here seems to be a reflection of User Generated Content sites in general; whereby 1% of the audience creates content (the contributers), 10% interact with the content (the users) and the rest consume the content (the guests).

My Apologies

As a new editor, my apologies for not posting more news and info. I was honored when I was added as an editor and I take it seriously. I requested to be an editor because this is my favorite site.

I really HATE posting news that is regurgitation from other sites or regurgitiation from the past. I also HATE posting about other peoples attempts to create controversy.

Lately in the search and internet marketing sphere is seems that those types of stories are all I have been reading. Thus light posting on my part. I'll put more effort into posting as we go forward. That said I only am going to post if its a useful unique story that hasn't been done to death by the "SEORoundtable" type of sites.

// added: just read TallTrolls post above and am in complete agreement with his sentiments.

Darn little news

There just ain't a whole lot going on in the search world to report on and that isn't TW's fault. Reading news about the search industry these days is about as exciting as watching cement set. There isn't really much about search, there is no innovation, it's all about portalization. Zzzz.

That said, the link bait posts and "lookie here so and so said on their blog posts" are getting old, too much cult of personality stuff and whining. Discussions of politics, religion etc. belong somewhere else.

I think the best posts have been when the editor's point out something and really try to explain why they think it is important - not just the news but thoughtful analysis too. With all the experience around here the insights can be very thought provoking when applied and not just about search but the internet in general.

you've managed to fog the mirror

But that's about it.

>newbies

I think we should kill them straight away and put their heads on a pike by the register link.

>coup

I know of no coup, seems I was away while it happened. But whatever happened, this place was sucking air, so maybe there's hope now.

What I like and dislike about TW

I only have three forum type sites that I visit every day, one being TW. I'm very picky about what I spend my time reading/browsing, so that's a compliment to TW. I definitely enjoyed it here more when Nick was in charge, but was pleasantly surprised when it didn't simply die off when he left.

I like TW, because I get to hear the thoughts of others who've been a long time in the SEM industry that I wouldn't normally hear because I just don't hang out where they do. I don't always agree with everything posted here, nor do I read every thread. But I browse most days, read a few threads, and contribute when I have something to say.

For me, it's been a place where I've been able to get to know others who I wouldn't have otherwise had the opportunity to meet, and I hope that it's given some others the opportunity to meet me as well.

What I don't like are the stupid hate contests and the google bashing. I guess the bashing of stuff in general I don't like. There can definitely be a mob mentality here sometimes that is pretty scary. It's interesting to watch who likes to follow the crowd though. You do learn a lot about people from that.

I haven't really noticed the self promotion or anything like that, but maybe because I don't read every thread.

Whatever coup there might

Whatever coup there might have been (was?) I guess I missed.

I've liked TW as a meeting point for people outside of membership and adherence to one forum or another, or are marketing types, etc. -- mainly a discussion between old-timers. As I have little time, it has been one place where I could get a feel for what people perceive out there.

But I think TW has gone way beyond any reasonable point in link-bait (what is this, yellow journalism?), and I'm not too comfortable with the ganging up on whomever and the like. Sure, it gets attention, but I suspect it also gives people a poor impression of SEO and TW in particular.

Maybe you could add a

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Maybe you could add a members announcement area where check out my new Blog/conference/social networking/spam bot/review site/affiliate marketing idea/ stuff could be placed and those interested would go. Sometimes noise is signal if placed in the right category.

Good idea. Label it what it is and put it in the recent posts list but keep it off the front page.

..

DianeV said;
>>>"...mainly a discussion between old-timers."

Jill said;
>>>"I like TW, because I get to hear the thoughts of others who've been a long time in the SEM industry that I wouldn't normally hear because I just don't hang out where they do."

I like the fact that when I read TW I see names I recognize, some of them names I trust and others names I don't. But most all of the folks that post regular here are folks that I have been reading and following their work for years.

Like Jill said, here at TW you get to hear ideas and opinions from people doing the same kind of things you are, people that you would normally never hear from or have contact with.
(To be honest, I just can't picture myself hanging out with Jill, but I love to hear her opinions, even if she is often wrong... ;)

As far as discussions about politics and religion, they crop up in every forum all the time... These things are a big part of what people are interested in and a big part of what we do at work.

You can disallow and delete discussions or posts about Politics and Religion if you want, but in my opinion it makes the discussion much less that it could or should be.

>they crop up in every forum

>they crop up in every forum all the time

Even in the closest of private forums, these are two exposed live wires that must be handled with extreme care. On that blog I'm advising I told them the first thing to do is lay out a ball-crushing TOS that covered the 3 forbidden topics : 1 - religion. 2 - politics.

The 3rd? PCs vs Macs

(Mac users suck, hhh.)

..

>"...these are two exposed live wires that must be handled with extreme care."

It is a very very fine line between discussion and argument, the moderators job is not easy. Discussion is good, argument and the attacking that always follows sucks.

>>added... Mac users are kinda arrogant aren't they? ;)

Even in the closest of

Even in the closest of private forums, these are two exposed live wires that must be handled with extreme care. On that blog I'm advising I told them the first thing to do is lay out a ball-crushing TOS that covered the 3 forbidden topics : 1 - religion. 2 - politics.

The two biggest live wires I've found are abortion and homosexuality.

Mention the words "politics" or "religion" and people who read those words will consider they have an opinion on these subjects.

Mention the words "abortion" or "homosexuality" and people who read those words will have a much greater itching to post that opinion.

I run an interfaith forum, and allow political discussion on my big board, though it's off-topic. Both those two live wire subjects are rarely left unlocked unless absolutely relevant to the discussion (Heinlein's treatment of homosexuality; or, abortion and Catholicism, etc).

2c.

> run an interfaith

> run an interfaith forum

Oooph! I'd rather have a sharp stick poked in my eye.

>"abortion" or "homosexuality"

Duly noted, 4 & 5 added to the ball-crusher.

Oooph! I'd rather have a

Oooph! I'd rather have a sharp stick poked in my eye.

It's not so bad really, so long as the following are nuked on sight:

1. Neonazis
2. Newly Born again Christians
3. New Age Prophets
4. Reincarnations of Jesus
5. Gods on earth

Damn - I fail on at least 3 out of 5 counts..

And you don't need to go into point 4!!!!!!

Though I give credit to Brian for at least broaching said subjects in a positive manner.

It has to do with the

It has to do with the experience level of the posters. Once you've stepped into the dog doo a few hundred times, you no longer bother to reply to those "live wire" topics except on a dedicated forum or on an off day ;-)

Thinking I'd contribute more....

... I tried starting a thread. But found I was blocked. Maybe it was something I did. So I PMed Aaron to find out. Several days ago. No reply.

Maybe others have the same problems and don't bother posting.

yeah same as

also not had a reply from Aaron

I generally try to reply to

I generally try to reply to all the messages I get... I remember replying to some recent ones from mick g. We recently did an upgrade and that might be part of it. Sorry if I let anyone down.

if you click on "Submit new

if you click on "Submit new story" you get this Aaron

Access denied
You are not authorized to access this page

access denied

clear cookies close browser open browser re login etc etc - worked for me

Just another comment on TW.

Just another comment on TW. I seem to be getting emailed (email update to post, usually done when subscribing to post, by posting yourself) everytime someone posts on a thread. Is this some new feature?

incrediblehelp ...

I've been getting those for ages; unfortunately, I sometimes get several emails when there is only one new comment.

yeah

I just have seen a LARGE increase in frequency over the past few weeks. Strangely these emails are from threads I am not even subscribed to or have posted at, LOL!

No biggie, I like TW so visiting is going to happen anyways.

I just got the core

I just got the core upgraded. I will send feedback to the programmer to get him on this stuff asap.

Aaron either way I would

Aaron either way I would love to see a subscribe by email link added to each thread. So I can follow along without posting. Would help get more interaction with TW, BIG TIME!

Following the recent site

Following the recent site upgrade, most [logged in] users were unable to post Stories. This was a simple permissions issue that was overlooked and has been fixed as of today. I apologize for the inconvenience.

For anyone who is getting unwanted email, here is how to manage your email subscription settings:

When you are logged in, go to My Account > Edit > Receive e-mail for unread messages

  • Choose Never if you don't like the email notifications.
  • Choose Daily if you like the emails, but only want one for the entire day.
  • Choose Every message if you really like the emails, and want one immediately each time a new post is published.

All known issues have been resolved as of today. However, since it has only been a little while since the upgraded, please continue to notify me of any unexpected behavior you might encounter during the next week or two.

I am very interested in fixing any issues and will be monitoring feedback closely. Thank you.

yup

I am set up for daily, but they seem to come on every post. Hope you get those little bugs fried!

Some other thoughts

Thanks, Aaron. I like the daily notifications (and only got one each after you and incrediblehelp posted).

Multi-page Threads: One thing I've always thought would be useful is tweaking the before/next links funtionality (e.g., page 1, 2, etc.) for long threads that get split up on more than one page. Right now, we must access the first page which we've already read just to scroll to the bottom to get to the links to the subsequent page(s).

-- on the thread pages, the before/next links could be at the top of the page(s) as well as the bottom, which would save having to scroll to the bottom to access the links.

-- on the Recent Posts page, it would be helpful to have links to the various pages (for example, 1, 2, 3) instead of just the thread's first page.

As well, when you post a comment on a thread's secondary page(s), you get bounced to the first page. Would be great if that didn't happen. (Well, at least it happens in Opera, and maybe that's the issue?)

Anyway, as long as you seem to be working on this ... :)

more updates...

on subscriptions...from the developer. he said:

I upgraded the Subscriptions.module to the latest CVS snapshot.

Then I discovered I had forgotten to allow users to manage their
subscriptions, and enabled that for all authenticated (logged-in) users--you
can find this under My Account > My Subscriptions now. I believe this is how
users can unsubscribe from the unwanted areas they are subscribed to
currently.

Then I discovered that the Chameleon.theme when you are using does not allow
for node links to be displayed, so I added that functionality and now you
have 'Subscribe via Email' and 'Unsubscribe from Email' links appearing on
each story.

I would let everyone know about that My Subscriptions area as soon as
possible.

Hope this helps! :)

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