.xxx domains- what is your point of view?

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whether you are for them or against them, they really stir up conversation. I actually think that .xxx would be a good thing. the religous right and profitable xxx .coms say otherwise.

i do not think that legally they could force xxx .coms to move. however, the new tld would be the biggest tld only behind .com. it would help organize the web better, create jobs and commerce. it would help people block the entire domain- either by companies or parents.

ICANN is still allowing people to post comments for the proposed .xxx tld for 60 days. It is in everyone's best interest to post as many positive intelligent comments as possible. The religious right was heard in November 05 with 600 canned letters that stopped the domains forward progress.

whether you like girlie sites or not. it is a choice.

NO ONE WANTS CENSORSHIP! if you do, move to China...

my 2 cents on a hot topic.

Please post positive comments. Thanks.

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I thought is was now

I thought is was now NC-17NC-17NC-17 ?

Censorship

"NO ONE WANTS CENSORSHIP!"

Almost the polar opposite is true. Otherwise you'd have xxx on tv at 4pm on free to air network channels.

xxx domains are a hack.

xxx domains are a hack. Trying to force the dns system to act as a dewey decimal system is lame brained.

Here is why it's a bad

Here is why it's a bad idea:

The entire .xxx idea is based around money. These domains will be sold for $70 a pop and the people behind it will surely push lawmakers to make them mandatory for all adult sites. They are simply trying to extort adult sites out of money. This has nothing to do with child safety, just some opportunistic businessmen trying to milk an industry.

Besides the money issue, it sets up a lot of questions about what is defined as adult and what is not. Is Maxim adult material? Are forums that discuss sex considered adult? What is the line and how can you possibly define it on a global scale?

You also have to look at what happens if they don't make laws to block .xxx sites. Have they not just told every kid in the world exactly where to look for porn? If you do block it, do you really think the guys showing child porn really give a crap about the law? They are already doing something illegal.

But the biggest issue is the potential abuse and censorship. It opens the door for labeling other industries. Will we see religious sites sent to their own TLD? How about gambling? Maybe even violent sites? It's not a path we should go down, especially considering that adult sites are the least of kids worries in this world.

Obviously ICANT is spamming SEO forums now.

Naughty Stuart :-)

i do not think that legally

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i do not think that legally they could force xxx .coms to move.

And why do you say that? The US government doesn't allow online gambling in the US. The US government forces adult sites right now to provide detailed records of every performer on ever page of every site. Heck, they've even proposed bills to ban all social networking, blogs, forums, wikipedia, and chat services from schools and libraries.

So why is it so far fetched that they would setup a law that requires all adult sites be on .xxx? As long as you say it's "for the children's safety", you can pass just about anything these days.

Without going into any reasons

I like the idea. :p

@webprofessor: The TLD

@webprofessor:

The TLD system is lame-brained, also designed purely for extorting money.

On the *Internet* I would much rather have my TLDs organised by content than locality. *.co.uk means nothing to me, *.edu speaks volumes.

-Rob

xxx domain names mean more spam, no?

It just means an entire set of porn related domain names for us all to get spammed from, what a BAAAAAAAAAAD idea!

.edu??

.edu is US educational establishments only - it means nothing outside of the US apart from the US trying to control the internet. (Similarly for .gov and .mil)

On the other hand I have nothing against the internet being organised by content, as well as by locality.

Unfortunately having that debate over .xxx is a real issue.

If the debate was about a block of tlds for most major industries - I think we would see a much more reasoned debate, rather than some of the paranoia, censorship and profiteering arguments we see in the .xxx debate.

Then again .travel was meant to perform a similar function in the travel industry and it has taken off like a lead balloon.

If The Internet Were A Real Place

Dave Chappelle's bit on "If the Internet Were a Real Place" is a funny illustration of why separating adult sites into their own domain makes perfect sense. Those of us with children, or who -- gasp! -- do not consider sex a public activity, could simply turn off access to .XXX domains and I'd never have to worry again about my daughter mistyping a domain name and ending up on a hard-core porn trap, or clicking a deceptive link in a spam e-mail.

As it stands right now, the only safe way I can let my daughter use the Internet is to lock her into a handful of domains. Or maybe I could spend a few hours configuring a linux Squid proxy server running Dansguardian, fine tuning it for her age, and hope for the best. Right.

If the Internet is an extension of society like a mall or a supermarket, then why shouldn't it prevent minors from entering adult bookstores, or buying the porn behind the counters, or placing the adult books right next to the children's? Is that censorship? It is social filtering and I am glad for it.

simply turn off access to

simply turn off access to .XXX domains and I'd never have to worry again about my daughter mistyping a domain name and ending up on a hard-core porn trap

Introducing .XXX domains won't stop people buys regular TLDs, therefore you can block a lot of new sites on a suggested .XXX domain level but unfortunately not the billions of other sites.

Those of us with children,

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Those of us with children, or who -- gasp! -- do not consider sex a public activity, could simply turn off access to .XXX domains and I'd never have to worry again about my daughter mistyping a domain name and ending up on a hard-core porn trap, or clicking a deceptive link in a spam e-mail.

How exactly is a US law going to assure your daughter never mistypes a domain name again? Does the guy in the Ukraine really give a shit about our laws? Did the CAN-SPAM act really knock out all those pesky spam e-mails? Nothing will change at all. There will just be more foreign adult webmasters prospering. Any law on .XXX is just a nice way for a politician to get his face in the paper for "protecting kids".

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If the Internet is an extension of society like a mall or a supermarket, then why shouldn't it prevent minors from entering adult bookstores, or buying the porn behind the counters, or placing the adult books right next to the children's? Is that censorship? It is social filtering and I am glad for it.

But the Internet is not an extension of society like a mall or supermarket. It's global. There is simply no laws that we could ever write that would protect ourselves and our children from what people in other countries do. While I agree 100% that kids should not be seeing that kind of stuff, I also know that any law in place would do absolutely nothing to stop that problem.

But the biggest issue this would cause is what is deemed "adult". What is deemed offensive? If we are going the route of forcing adult on to a specific TLD, we should also force alcohol, drug, firearm, hate groups, and religious sites to be on set TLDs for blocking out. Those industries alone have accounted for more child deaths globally than any porn site could imagine. So while you don't want your daughter running across a porn site, I wouldn't want my kids to read sites that tell you how cool drinking is and what the newest racial slurs are.

My point is that we'll never be able to protect kids from society. We all need to realize that the Internet is not much different than setting your kid free in a major city. They will come across all sorts of stuff that you don't want them to. There is no amount of filtering, legislation, or protesting that will stop that. The Internet is going to need to be treated like anything else in your kid's life that requires supervision. It should not be used as a babysitter by anyone. To think a couple laws will make it safe to have your kid surf the net is just naive.

So while I don't like a lot of stuff on the net, I know that the lack of censorship and filtering is what makes it what it is. I don't want to become like China where we block out every possible threat. I think the best solution is to treat the Internet like any other activity in your child's life. Something that should be supervised till you feel they can handle what's on it on their own.

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